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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">GLEP:</th><td class="field-body">10</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Localized Gentoo Sites</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.4</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0010.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2004/08/22 13:57:11</a></td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Tobias Scherbaum &lt;dertobi123&#32;&#97;t&#32;gentoo.org&gt;, Sven Vermeulen &lt;swift&#32;&#97;t&#32;gentoo.org&gt;</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">deferred</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">4-Aug-2003</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">4-Aug-2003, 22-Aug-2003, 14-Mar-2004, 2-May-2004, 22-Aug-2004</td>
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<p class="topic-title first"><a id="contents" name="contents">Contents</a></p>
<ul class="simple">
<li><a class="reference" href="#status" id="id4" name="id4">Status</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id5" name="id5">Abstract:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id6" name="id6">Motivation:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id7" name="id7">Rationale:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#implementation" id="id8" name="id8">Implementation:</a><ul>
<li><a class="reference" href="#website-pages" id="id9" name="id9">Website Pages:</a><ul>
<li><a class="reference" href="#requirements-for-small-localized-sites" id="id10" name="id10">Requirements for &quot;small&quot; localized sites:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#requirements-for-big-localized-sites" id="id11" name="id11">Requirements for &quot;big&quot; localized sites:</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#cvs-structure" id="id12" name="id12">CVS Structure:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#mail" id="id13" name="id13">Mail:</a></li>
<li><a class="reference" href="#xsl" id="id14" name="id14">XSL:</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id4" id="status" name="status">Status</a></h1>
<p>Due to insufficient resources, the doc team is unable to implement
this GLEP at this time.  It has therefore been marked &quot;deferred&quot;.</p>
</div>
<div class="section">
<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id5" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract:</a></h1>
<p>The Gentoo Website <a class="footnote-reference" href="#gentoo" id="id1" name="id1">[1]</a> is the main source of documentation regarding
Gentoo itself. It hosts all documents that the Gentoo Documentation Project
<a class="footnote-reference" href="#gdp" id="id2" name="id2">[2]</a> delivers, including all made translations. In addition the website
contains the GWN and its translations and several news items.</p>
</div>
<div class="section">
<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id6" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation:</a></h1>
<p>Lots of people have shown interest in the localization proposal, and
even the infrastructure team has given positive feedback. However, due
to lack of a good roadmap and proposal this suggestion has never grown
beyond what it is now: a suggestion. Between the first draft of this
proposal and now some communities grown faster than others. Actually it
is obvious that we have big communities (lots of users, lots of
translators) and smaller communities (less users, less translators). If
we speak about localized Gentoo sites we need to find a capable
solution for small and even bigger communities. This leads us to a
point where the lead translator can decide between a small localized
site including necessarily translated documents and only some
additional pages and a bigger variant with lots of translated gdp
documents, translated news and gwn plus additional pages.</p>
</div>
<div class="section">
<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id7" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale:</a></h1>
<p>The current layout regarding documentation in the CVS is as follows:</p>
<blockquote>
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/en/*
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/nl/*
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/fr/*</blockquote>
<p>However, there are several other documents (about, policy, etc) in
main/$lang:</p>
<blockquote>
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/en/*
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/nl/*
[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/fr/*</blockquote>
<p>This structure makes it very difficult for assigning permissions to the
individual translation teams, and even more difficult to really localize
the Gentoo Website. At this very moment, the translation teams can edit
documents of other languages or even the master English documents. English
reviewers and editors can touch documents of languages they possibly don't
even know. Although we do trust every single documentation editor, a better
implementation is advisable. We also can't give access to well-known
but non-dev translators.</p>
<p>We want to restructure the current layout so that the Gentoo Website is
more easily internationalized.</p>
</div>
<div class="section">
<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id8" id="implementation" name="implementation">Implementation:</a></h1>
<div class="section">
<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id9" id="website-pages" name="website-pages">Website Pages:</a></h2>
<p>The Lead Translator can choose if he wants to maintain a &quot;small&quot; or a
&quot;big&quot; localized site. All localized sites will be accessible on
<a class="reference" href="http://$lang.gentoo.org">http://$lang.gentoo.org</a> which will point to [gentoo]xml/htdocs/$lang.
All localized sites must be implemented in GuideXML.</p>
<div class="section">
<h3><a class="toc-backref" href="#id10" id="requirements-for-small-localized-sites" name="requirements-for-small-localized-sites">Requirements for &quot;small&quot; localized sites:</a></h3>
<blockquote>
<ul class="simple">
<li>all documents marked as required in our Translators Howto</li>
<li>$lang/main/translators.xml, listing of all translators (including
GWN translators)</li>
<li>$lang/main/communities.xml, listing of all community sites available in $lang</li>
<li>index.xml &quot;welcome page&quot;, listing of available ressources on
$lang.gentoo.org (i.e. links to documentation, translators.xml and
communities.xml)</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div class="section">
<h3><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="requirements-for-big-localized-sites" name="requirements-for-big-localized-sites">Requirements for &quot;big&quot; localized sites:</a></h3>
<blockquote>
<ul class="simple">
<li>all documents marked as required in our Translators Howto</li>
<li>$lang/main/translators.xml, listing of all translators (including
GWN translators)</li>
<li>$lang/main/communities.xml, listing of all community sites available in $lang</li>
<li>translated $lang/main documents</li>
<li>translated $lang/news/gwn</li>
<li>translated news items ($lang/news) (only translated news items,
news items on a per-lang basis aren't allowed)</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
</div>
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<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="cvs-structure" name="cvs-structure">CVS Structure:</a></h2>
<p>Actual scheme, everything is relative to [gentoo]/xml/htdocs:</p>
<pre class="literal-block">
main/en         Contains the main Gentoo Website (about, policy, lists, etc.)
main/$lang      Contains some translated Website pages
doc/en          Contains the master English Documentation
doc/$lang       Contains the translated Documentation
news            Contains English news items
news/en/gwn     Contains the master English GWNs
news/$lang/gwn  Contains translated GWNs
proj/en         Contains the project Webpages
</pre>
<p>Proposed scheme, relative to [gentoo]/xml/htdocs:</p>
<pre class="literal-block">
$lang/main      Contains some translated Website pages
$lang/doc       Contains the translated Documentation
$lang/news      Contains translated news items
$lang/news/gwn  Contains translated GWNs
</pre>
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<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="mail" name="mail">Mail:</a></h2>
<p>All mails to <a class="reference" href="mailto:www-$lang&#64;gentoo.org">www-$lang&#64;gentoo.org</a> should be forwarded to the Lead
Translator and his Follow-Up.</p>
</div>
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<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="xsl" name="xsl">XSL:</a></h2>
<p>We need to &quot;hack&quot; our guide.xsl to support something like inserts.xml for the
whole site.</p>
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<tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id2" name="gdp">[2]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://gdp.gentoo.org">http://gdp.gentoo.org</a></td></tr>
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27			<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">GLEP:</th><td class="field-body">10</td>
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29	g2boojum	1.3	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Localized Gentoo Sites</td>
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31	g2boojum	1.4	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.4</td>
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35	g2boojum	1.3	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Tobias Scherbaum <dertobi123 at gentoo.org>, Sven Vermeulen <swift at gentoo.org></td>
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37	g2boojum	1.4	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">deferred</td>
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41	g2boojum	1.4	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">4-Aug-2003, 22-Aug-2003, 14-Mar-2004, 2-May-2004, 22-Aug-2004</td>
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47			<p class="topic-title first"><a id="contents" name="contents">Contents</a></p>
48	g2boojum	1.1	<ul class="simple">
49	g2boojum	1.4	<li><a class="reference" href="#status" id="id4" name="id4">Status</a></li>
50			<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id5" name="id5">Abstract:</a></li>
51			<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id6" name="id6">Motivation:</a></li>
52			<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id7" name="id7">Rationale:</a></li>
53			<li><a class="reference" href="#implementation" id="id8" name="id8">Implementation:</a><ul>
54			<li><a class="reference" href="#website-pages" id="id9" name="id9">Website Pages:</a><ul>
55			<li><a class="reference" href="#requirements-for-small-localized-sites" id="id10" name="id10">Requirements for "small" localized sites:</a></li>
56			<li><a class="reference" href="#requirements-for-big-localized-sites" id="id11" name="id11">Requirements for "big" localized sites:</a></li>
57	g2boojum	1.3	</ul>
58			</li>
59	g2boojum	1.4	<li><a class="reference" href="#cvs-structure" id="id12" name="id12">CVS Structure:</a></li>
60			<li><a class="reference" href="#mail" id="id13" name="id13">Mail:</a></li>
61			<li><a class="reference" href="#xsl" id="id14" name="id14">XSL:</a></li>
62	g2boojum	1.1	</ul>
63			</li>
64			</ul>
65			</div>
66	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
67			<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id4" id="status" name="status">Status</a></h1>
68	g2boojum	1.4	<p>Due to insufficient resources, the doc team is unable to implement
69			this GLEP at this time. It has therefore been marked "deferred".</p>
70			</div>
71	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
72			<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id5" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract:</a></h1>
73	g2boojum	1.3	<p>The Gentoo Website <a class="footnote-reference" href="#gentoo" id="id1" name="id1">[1]</a> is the main source of documentation regarding
74			Gentoo itself. It hosts all documents that the Gentoo Documentation Project
75			<a class="footnote-reference" href="#gdp" id="id2" name="id2">[2]</a> delivers, including all made translations. In addition the website
76			contains the GWN and its translations and several news items.</p>
77	g2boojum	1.1	</div>
78	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
79			<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id6" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation:</a></h1>
80	g2boojum	1.3	<p>Lots of people have shown interest in the localization proposal, and
81			even the infrastructure team has given positive feedback. However, due
82			to lack of a good roadmap and proposal this suggestion has never grown
83			beyond what it is now: a suggestion. Between the first draft of this
84			proposal and now some communities grown faster than others. Actually it
85			is obvious that we have big communities (lots of users, lots of
86			translators) and smaller communities (less users, less translators). If
87			we speak about localized Gentoo sites we need to find a capable
88			solution for small and even bigger communities. This leads us to a
89			point where the lead translator can decide between a small localized
90			site including necessarily translated documents and only some
91			additional pages and a bigger variant with lots of translated gdp
92			documents, translated news and gwn plus additional pages.</p>
93	g2boojum	1.1	</div>
94	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
95			<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id7" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale:</a></h1>
96	g2boojum	1.1	<p>The current layout regarding documentation in the CVS is as follows:</p>
97	g2boojum	1.3	<blockquote>
98	g2boojum	1.1	[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/en/*
99			[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/nl/*
100	g2boojum	1.3	[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/doc/fr/*</blockquote>
101			<p>However, there are several other documents (about, policy, etc) in
102			main/$lang:</p>
103			<blockquote>
104	g2boojum	1.1	[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/en/*
105			[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/nl/*
106	g2boojum	1.3	[gentoo]/xml/htdocs/main/fr/*</blockquote>
107	g2boojum	1.1	<p>This structure makes it very difficult for assigning permissions to the
108	g2boojum	1.3	individual translation teams, and even more difficult to really localize
109	g2boojum	1.1	the Gentoo Website. At this very moment, the translation teams can edit
110			documents of other languages or even the master English documents. English
111			reviewers and editors can touch documents of languages they possibly don't
112	g2boojum	1.3	even know. Although we do trust every single documentation editor, a better
113			implementation is advisable. We also can't give access to well-known
114			but non-dev translators.</p>
115	g2boojum	1.1	<p>We want to restructure the current layout so that the Gentoo Website is
116			more easily internationalized.</p>
117			</div>
118	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
119			<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id8" id="implementation" name="implementation">Implementation:</a></h1>
120			<div class="section">
121			<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id9" id="website-pages" name="website-pages">Website Pages:</a></h2>
122	g2boojum	1.3	<p>The Lead Translator can choose if he wants to maintain a "small" or a
123			"big" localized site. All localized sites will be accessible on
124			<a class="reference" href="http://$lang.gentoo.org">http://$lang.gentoo.org</a> which will point to [gentoo]xml/htdocs/$lang.
125			All localized sites must be implemented in GuideXML.</p>
126	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
127			<h3><a class="toc-backref" href="#id10" id="requirements-for-small-localized-sites" name="requirements-for-small-localized-sites">Requirements for "small" localized sites:</a></h3>
128	g2boojum	1.3	<blockquote>
129			<ul class="simple">
130			<li>all documents marked as required in our Translators Howto</li>
131			<li>$lang/main/translators.xml, listing of all translators (including
132			GWN translators)</li>
133			<li>$lang/main/communities.xml, listing of all community sites available in $lang</li>
134			<li>index.xml "welcome page", listing of available ressources on
135			$lang.gentoo.org (i.e. links to documentation, translators.xml and
136			communities.xml)</li>
137			</ul>
138			</blockquote>
139			</div>
140	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
141			<h3><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="requirements-for-big-localized-sites" name="requirements-for-big-localized-sites">Requirements for "big" localized sites:</a></h3>
142	g2boojum	1.3	<blockquote>
143			<ul class="simple">
144			<li>all documents marked as required in our Translators Howto</li>
145			<li>$lang/main/translators.xml, listing of all translators (including
146			GWN translators)</li>
147			<li>$lang/main/communities.xml, listing of all community sites available in $lang</li>
148			<li>translated $lang/main documents</li>
149			<li>translated $lang/news/gwn</li>
150			<li>translated news items ($lang/news) (only translated news items,
151			news items on a per-lang basis aren't allowed)</li>
152			</ul>
153			</blockquote>
154			</div>
155			</div>
156	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
157			<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="cvs-structure" name="cvs-structure">CVS Structure:</a></h2>
158	g2boojum	1.3	<p>Actual scheme, everything is relative to [gentoo]/xml/htdocs:</p>
159	g2boojum	1.2	<pre class="literal-block">
160	g2boojum	1.3	main/en Contains the main Gentoo Website (about, policy, lists, etc.)
161			main/$lang Contains some translated Website pages
162			doc/en Contains the master English Documentation
163			doc/$lang Contains the translated Documentation
164			news Contains English news items
165			news/en/gwn Contains the master English GWNs
166			news/$lang/gwn Contains translated GWNs
167			proj/en Contains the project Webpages
168	g2boojum	1.1	</pre>
169	g2boojum	1.3	<p>Proposed scheme, relative to [gentoo]/xml/htdocs:</p>
170	g2boojum	1.1	<pre class="literal-block">
171	g2boojum	1.3	$lang/main Contains some translated Website pages
172			$lang/doc Contains the translated Documentation
173			$lang/news Contains translated news items
174			$lang/news/gwn Contains translated GWNs
175	g2boojum	1.1	</pre>
176			</div>
177	g2boojum	1.5	<div class="section">
178			<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="mail" name="mail">Mail:</a></h2>
179	g2boojum	1.3	<p>All mails to <a class="reference" href="mailto:www-$lang@gentoo.org">www-$lang@gentoo.org</a> should be forwarded to the Lead
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183			<h2><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="xsl" name="xsl">XSL:</a></h2>
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195	g2boojum	1.3	<tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id2" name="gdp">[2]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://gdp.gentoo.org">http://gdp.gentoo.org</a></td></tr>
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