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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">"Planet Gentoo" web log aggregator</td>
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<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Daniel Drake <dsd at gentoo.org></td>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#credits" id="id19" name="id19">Credits</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id20" name="id20">Abstract</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id21" name="id21">Motivation</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id22" name="id22">Specification</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id23" name="id23">Rationale</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#backwards-compatibility" id="id24" name="id24">Backwards Compatibility</a></li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="#references" id="id26" name="id26">References</a></li>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id19" name="credits">Credits</a></h1>
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<li><a class="reference" href="mailto:stuart@gentoo.org">Stuart Herbert</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id1" id="id2" name="id2">[1]</a> for the original idea</li>
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<li><a class="reference" href="mailto:alexander@gentoo.org">Alexander Plank</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id3" id="id4" name="id4">[2]</a> who also has put effort into promoting this</li>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id20" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>
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<p>This GLEP proposes the creation of "Planet Gentoo", a new section of the
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gentoo.org website. It would aggregate weblogs (commonly known as "blogs")
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written by contributing Gentoo developers onto this single page, available to
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the public. I will refer to this new website section as "the planet" in this
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We would also provide an installation of a weblog engine for developers that
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do not currently have their own weblog.</p>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id21" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>
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<p>I'm trying to reduce the gap between the Gentoo user and development
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communities.</p>
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<p>Many large open source projects and software distributors have their own
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Planet where contributors weblogs are aggregated. See the <a class="reference" href="http://www.planetplanet.org">Planetplanet</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id6" id="id7" name="id7">[3]</a>
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homepage for a complete listing. These other aggregations appear to be
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successful and bring their relevant communities together.</p>
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<p>These aggregations are often quite interesting to read, since they contain a
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variation of topics, not all of which are related to the project.</p>
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<p>The planet would add another method of user interaction with developers, as
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most weblogs allow readers to post comments.</p>
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<p>Readers would get more interested in the Gentoo project, and would get a feel
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for the personalities of the contributing developers. Although I am not
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suggesting this should be used as an announcement tool, developers could also
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use this to get general messages over to the user community.</p>
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<p>This would also benefit our development, as developers would also be able to
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keep track of what other developers are working on and promote more
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collaboration amongst each other.</p>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id22" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>
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<p>The proposed design is an installation of <a class="reference" href="http://www.planetplanet.org">Planetplanet</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id6" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a> at a part of the
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gentoo.org infrastructure, e.g. <a class="reference" href="http://planet.gentoo.org">http://planet.gentoo.org</a></p>
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<p>We would also provide an installation of <a class="reference" href="http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=wordpress">Wordpress</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id10" id="id11" name="id11">[4]</a> or a similar weblogging
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engine, for developers that do not have their own weblog or would wish to
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move their log to an official Gentoo hosted website. This could be provided
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at (e.g.) <a class="reference" href="http://weblogs.gentoo.org">http://weblogs.gentoo.org</a></p>
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<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id23" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>
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<p><a class="reference" href="http://www.planetplanet.org">Planetplanet</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id6" id="id9" name="id9">[3]</a> is simply a weblog aggregator written in python. It is
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executed as a cronjob and fetches content from all the weblogs it has been
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asked to, postprocesses and aggregates them into a single html file (based on
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a template), and outputs that html content to an area provided by a webserver.
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<p>Planetplanet is configurable through a single configuration file, which lists
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the log feed URL, real name and user name for each contributing developer.</p>
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the data store. After the initial setup, all configuration is done through a
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web-based interface.</p>
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these two services. I would suggest the existing infrastructure team to have
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this responsibility. If required, I will assist with the initial
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<p>The planetplanet installation would fetch and aggregate developers weblogs
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only, we would not accept non-developer logs.</p>
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packages provide an XML feed (typically RSS) which planetplanet will happily
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it would be closed. For this reason, some developers may choose to host their
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log elsewhere - this is not a problem and is left to the decision of the
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individual developers.</p>
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<p>It is true that the addition of the planet to our website collection would add
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yet another source of Gentoo information to our collection; our users and
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developers are already overwhelmed with IRC, mailing lists, forums, and the
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central website. In contrast, a lot of information is currently replicated
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over those mediums, but the planet would provide a taste of something new.
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perhaps would not fit into our existing communication mediums. Additionally,
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recent commits, bug lists, and dev.gentoo.org webspace for each contributing
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<p>It has been suggested that the activity of the planet may be an issue:
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although a lot of activity would make the planet very successful, it may look
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bad on us as a whole if the planet is inactive.</p>
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<p><a class="reference" href="mailto:alexander@gentoo.org">Alexander Plank</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id3" id="id5" name="id5">[2]</a> started a <a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/20480">gentoo-dev discussion</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id13" id="id14" name="id14">[5]</a> back in August regarding
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this exact idea. Alexander set up a <a class="reference" href="http://penguincluster.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/BlogInterest">Planet Gentoo mini-survey</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id15" id="id16" name="id16">[6]</a> to see which
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developers have weblogs or would be interested in obtaining one to be
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aggregated on the planet. At the time of writing, the survey yielded a list
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of 21 interested developers.</p>
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<p>Looking at the other planets available, a contributor count like this would be
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more than enough to keep the planet active and interesting. Through my
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experiments of finding developers existing weblogs through google and
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aggregating them on my local Planetplanet installation, I have come to the
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conclusion that just a small quantity of active weblogs is enough to keep the
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planet going strongly.</p>
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<p>I also note that the list of 21 interested developers was built up over a
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on the gentoo-dev mailing list. I predict that given more publicity amongst
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the developers, this idea would be even more popular. I also predict that if
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such a planet were to go live, other developers would be motivated to join in,
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and new developers joining the project would be keen on contributing.</p>
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<p>The success of the planet will be evaluated by examining the number of hits to
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the planet. 3 months after launch, one weeks worth of logs will be recorded,
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and hits will be counted. If the hit count for that week is below 1000, the
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planet will be deemed as not having met its target, and appropriate action can
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be taken if the planet appears to be harming our image.</p>
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<p>See <a class="reference" href="http://bugs.gentoo.org/63160">Bug 63160</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id17" id="id18" name="id18">[7]</a> for a template file mimicking the current gentoo.org design
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