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274 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">GLEP:</th><td class="field-body">38</td>
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276 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td>
277 </tr>
278 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.5</td>
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280 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/10/17 17:53:05</a></td>
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282 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann &lt;christian.hartmann at email.de&gt;,
283 Wernfried Haas &lt;w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at&gt;,
284 Tom Knight &lt;tomk at gentoo.org&gt;.</td>
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292 <tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td>
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302 <li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li>
303 <li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li>
304 <li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li>
305 <li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li>
306 <li><a class="reference" href="#backwards-compatibility" id="id15" name="id15">Backwards Compatibility</a></li>
307 <li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li>
308 <li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li>
309 <li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li>
310 </ul>
311 </div>
312 <div class="section">
313 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>
314 <p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process
315 and become official Gentoo staff.</p>
316 </div>
317 <div class="section">
318 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>
319 <p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and
320 people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP
321 aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for
322 moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully
323 achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about
324 moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs
325 access.</p>
326 <p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all
327 the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events
328 such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively
329 affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member
330 is present among the moderators.</p>
331 <p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we
332 should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As
333 moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used
334 as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the
335 trustees) they need to have some knowledge about Gentoo's internal structure
336 as well as contact to the other developers.</p>
337 <p>The current training process for new moderators works pretty well even though
338 there are no official guidelines how to do it. As part of this proposal a more
339 detailed procedure for the training process will be established to make it
340 more reproducable. It also gives us the possibility to document the things
341 happening already today in the current training process.</p>
342 <p>The status of the Gentoo Forums has been undefined for quite some time. Since
343 it is using the gentoo.org domain it should be considered an official project.
344 People working on an official project should be developers or staff following Gentoo's
345 general policy. At the moment the persons with direct access to the database
346 are developers. Being moderator could be considered an improved forums rank
347 that does not have impact on Gentoo's infrastructure, but since moderators and
348 administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly,
349 their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not
350 be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a
351 moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p>
352 </div>
353 <div class="section">
354 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="specification" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>
355 <p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that
356 upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes
357 will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow.
358 This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines
359 as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as
360 a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the
361 moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p>
362 <p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can
363 suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to
364 deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually
365 also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read
366 their previous posts and suggestions in the forums feedback threads. If they
367 accept, they will become moderator on the forums. A bug will be filed on
368 b.g.o containing information about the new moderator. Afterwards they must
369 answer the staff quiz that will be revisited by devrel. The quiz then will
370 be sent to <a class="reference" href="mailto:recruiters&#64;g.o">recruiters&#64;g.o</a> for revision. Becoming staff member is not
371 optional, but mandatory.</p>
372 <p>The first month is supposed to be a test period, if the moderator
373 does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be
374 restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team
375 are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a
376 situation.</p>
377 </div>
378 <div class="section">
379 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>
380 <p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo
381 Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were
382 mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less
383 writing down things that have been done already.
384 It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new
385 moderators.
386 Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is
387 chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators
388 didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the
389 questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation
390 guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to
391 read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information
392 given in this document.</p>
393 </div>
394 <div class="section">
395 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" id="backwards-compatibility" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1>
396 <p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be
397 considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz
398 if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go
399 through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p>
400 <p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not
401 all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which
402 would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would
403 counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is
404 optional for these moderators.</p>
405 <p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators
406 as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned
407 out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the
408 general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit
409 into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure
410 and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category
411 or making a separate one for the forums.</p>
412 </div>
413 <div class="section">
414 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" id="reference-implementation" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1>
415 <ul class="simple">
416 <li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li>
417 <li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&amp;chap=2">Becoming a developer</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id5" id="id6" name="id6">[2]</a></li>
418 <li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">Staff quiz</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id7" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a></li>
419 <li><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">Thread on gentoo-dev</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id9" id="id10" name="id10">[4]</a></li>
420 </ul>
421 </div>
422 <div class="section">
423 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id17" id="id1" name="id1">References</a></h1>
424 <table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id2" rules="none">
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426 <tbody valign="top">
427 <tr><td class="label"><a name="id2">[1]</a></td><td><em>(<a class="fn-backref" href="#id3">1</a>, <a class="fn-backref" href="#id4">2</a>)</em> <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml</a></td></tr>
428 </tbody>
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430 <table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id5" rules="none">
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433 <tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id6" name="id5">[2]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&amp;chap=2">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&amp;chap=2</a></td></tr>
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436 <table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id7" rules="none">
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439 <tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id8" name="id7">[3]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt</a></td></tr>
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442 <table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id9" rules="none">
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445 <tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id10" name="id9">[4]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985</a></td></tr>
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450 <h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id18" id="copyright" name="copyright">Copyright</a></h1>
451 <p>This document has been placed in the public domain.</p>
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