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33<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td> 276<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td>
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35<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.1</td> 278<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.5</td>
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37<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/06/24 21:32:46</a></td> 280<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/10/17 17:53:05</a></td>
38</tr> 281</tr>
39<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann &lt;christian.hartmann at email.de&gt;, 282<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann &lt;christian.hartmann at email.de&gt;,
40Wernfried Haas &lt;w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at&gt;.</td> 283Wernfried Haas &lt;w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at&gt;,
284Tom Knight &lt;tomk at gentoo.org&gt;.</td>
41</tr> 285</tr>
42<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Draft</td> 286<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Final</td>
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44<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Type:</th><td class="field-body">Informational</td> 288<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Type:</th><td class="field-body">Informational</td>
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48<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td> 292<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td>
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50<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005</td> 294<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005, 28-Jun-2005, 17-Oct-2005</td>
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55<div class="contents topic" id="contents"> 299<div class="contents topic">
56<p class="topic-title first"><a name="contents">Contents</a></p> 300<p class="topic-title first"><a id="contents" name="contents">Contents</a></p>
57<ul class="simple"> 301<ul class="simple">
58<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li> 302<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li>
59<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li> 303<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li>
60<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li> 304<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li>
61<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li> 305<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li>
63<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li> 307<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li>
64<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li> 308<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li>
65<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li> 309<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li>
66</ul> 310</ul>
67</div> 311</div>
68<div class="section" id="abstract"> 312<div class="section">
69<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1> 313<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>
70<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process 314<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process
71and become official Gentoo staff.</p> 315and become official Gentoo staff.</p>
72</div> 316</div>
73<div class="section" id="motivation"> 317<div class="section">
74<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1> 318<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>
75<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and 319<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and
76people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP 320people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP
77aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for 321aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for
78moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully 322moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully
79achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about 323achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about
80moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs 324moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs
81access.</p> 325access.</p>
82<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all 326<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all
83the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events 327the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events
84such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively 328such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively
85affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member 329affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member
86is present among the moderators.</p> 330is present among the moderators.</p>
87<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we 331<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we
88should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As 332should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As
89moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used 333moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used
90as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the 334as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the
104administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly, 348administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly,
105their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not 349their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not
106be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a 350be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a
107moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p> 351moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p>
108</div> 352</div>
109<div class="section" id="specification"> 353<div class="section">
110<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" name="specification">Specification</a></h1> 354<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="specification" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>
111<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that 355<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that
112upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes 356upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes
113will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow. 357will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow.
114This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://curtis119.no-ip.org/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines 358This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines
115as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as 359as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as
116a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the 360a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the
117moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p> 361moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p>
118<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: 362<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can
119Existing moderators can suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new 363suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to
120moderator to deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually 364deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually
121also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read his 365also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read
122previous posts and suggestions in the forums feedback threads. 366their previous posts and suggestions in the forums feedback threads. If they
123If he accepts, he will become moderator on the forums. A bug will be filed on b.g.o 367accept, they will become moderator on the forums. A bug will be filed on
124containing information about the new moderator. Afterwards he must answer the staff 368b.g.o containing information about the new moderator. Afterwards they must
125quiz that will be revisited by devrel. The quiz then will be send to <a class="reference" href="mailto:recruiters&#64;g.o">recruiters&#64;g.o</a> for 369answer the staff quiz that will be revisited by devrel. The quiz then will
126revision.</p> 370be sent to <a class="reference" href="mailto:recruiters&#64;g.o">recruiters&#64;g.o</a> for revision. Becoming staff member is not
371optional, but mandatory.</p>
127<p>The first month is supposed to be a test period, if the moderator 372<p>The first month is supposed to be a test period, if the moderator
128does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, he will be 373does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be
129restored to his old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team 374restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team
130are encouraged to help the new moderator if he is unsure how to deal with a 375are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a
131situation.</p> 376situation.</p>
132</div> 377</div>
133<div class="section" id="rationale"> 378<div class="section">
134<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1> 379<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>
135<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo 380<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo
136Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were 381Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were
137mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less 382mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less
138writing down things that have been done already. 383writing down things that have been done already.
139It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new 384It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new
140moderators. 385moderators.
141Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is 386Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is
142chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators 387chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators
143didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the 388didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the
144questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation 389questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation
145guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to 390guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to
146read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information 391read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information
147given in this document.</p> 392given in this document.</p>
148</div> 393</div>
149<div class="section" id="backwards-compatibility"> 394<div class="section">
150<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1> 395<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" id="backwards-compatibility" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1>
151<p>Most moderators are currently not staff members. Becoming a staff member is not mandatory
152for existing moderators. If they want to become a staff member they need to take the
153staff quiz. If they don't they just stay in their position as moderator without
154becoming a staff member.</p>
155<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be 396<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be
156considered as old moderators in case they come back. New moderators should 397considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz
398if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go
157have to go through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p> 399through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p>
158<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not 400<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not
159all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which 401all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which
160would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would 402would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would
161counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is 403counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is
162optional for these moderators.</p> 404optional for these moderators.</p>
163<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators 405<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators
164as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned 406as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned
165out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the 407out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the
166general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit 408general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit
167into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure 409into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure
168and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category 410and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category
169or making a separate one for the forums.</p> 411or making a separate one for the forums.</p>
170</div> 412</div>
171<div class="section" id="reference-implementation"> 413<div class="section">
172<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1> 414<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" id="reference-implementation" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1>
173<ul class="simple"> 415<ul class="simple">
174<li><a class="reference" href="http://curtis119.no-ip.org/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li> 416<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li>
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