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33<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td> 276<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td>
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35<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.3</td> 278<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.5</td>
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37<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/07/06 16:07:25</a></td> 280<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/10/17 17:53:05</a></td>
38</tr> 281</tr>
39<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann &lt;christian.hartmann at email.de&gt;, 282<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann &lt;christian.hartmann at email.de&gt;,
40Wernfried Haas &lt;w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at&gt;, 283Wernfried Haas &lt;w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at&gt;,
41Tom Knight &lt;tomk at gentoo.org&gt;.</td> 284Tom Knight &lt;tomk at gentoo.org&gt;.</td>
42</tr> 285</tr>
43<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Accepted</td> 286<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Final</td>
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49<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td> 292<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td>
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51<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005, 28-Jun-2005</td> 294<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005, 28-Jun-2005, 17-Oct-2005</td>
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56<div class="contents topic" id="contents"> 299<div class="contents topic">
57<p class="topic-title first"><a name="contents">Contents</a></p> 300<p class="topic-title first"><a id="contents" name="contents">Contents</a></p>
58<ul class="simple"> 301<ul class="simple">
59<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li> 302<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li>
60<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li> 303<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li>
61<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li> 304<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li>
62<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li> 305<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li>
64<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li> 307<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li>
65<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li> 308<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li>
66<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li> 309<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li>
67</ul> 310</ul>
68</div> 311</div>
69<div class="section" id="abstract"> 312<div class="section">
70<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1> 313<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>
71<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process 314<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process
72and become official Gentoo staff.</p> 315and become official Gentoo staff.</p>
73</div> 316</div>
74<div class="section" id="motivation"> 317<div class="section">
75<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1> 318<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>
76<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and 319<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and
77people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP 320people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP
78aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for 321aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for
79moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully 322moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully
80achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about 323achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about
81moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs 324moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs
82access.</p> 325access.</p>
83<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all 326<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all
84the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events 327the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events
85such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively 328such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively
86affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member 329affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member
87is present among the moderators.</p> 330is present among the moderators.</p>
88<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we 331<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we
89should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As 332should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As
90moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used 333moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used
91as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the 334as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the
105administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly, 348administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly,
106their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not 349their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not
107be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a 350be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a
108moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p> 351moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p>
109</div> 352</div>
110<div class="section" id="specification"> 353<div class="section">
111<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" name="specification">Specification</a></h1> 354<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="specification" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>
112<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that 355<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that
113upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes 356upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes
114will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow. 357will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow.
115This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://curtis119.no-ip.org/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines 358This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines
116as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as 359as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as
117a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the 360a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the
118moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p> 361moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p>
119<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can 362<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can
120suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to 363suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to
121deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually 364deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually
122also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read 365also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read
130does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be 373does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be
131restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team 374restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team
132are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a 375are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a
133situation.</p> 376situation.</p>
134</div> 377</div>
135<div class="section" id="rationale"> 378<div class="section">
136<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1> 379<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>
137<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo 380<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo
138Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were 381Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were
139mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less 382mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less
140writing down things that have been done already. 383writing down things that have been done already.
141It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new 384It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new
142moderators. 385moderators.
143Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is 386Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is
144chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators 387chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators
145didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the 388didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the
146questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation 389questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation
147guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to 390guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to
148read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information 391read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information
149given in this document.</p> 392given in this document.</p>
150</div> 393</div>
151<div class="section" id="backwards-compatibility"> 394<div class="section">
152<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1> 395<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" id="backwards-compatibility" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1>
153<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be 396<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be
154considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz 397considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz
155if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go 398if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go
156through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p> 399through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p>
157<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not 400<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not
158all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which 401all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which
159would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would 402would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would
160counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is 403counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is
161optional for these moderators.</p> 404optional for these moderators.</p>
162<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators 405<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators
163as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned 406as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned
164out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the 407out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the
165general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit 408general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit
166into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure 409into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure
167and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category 410and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category
168or making a separate one for the forums.</p> 411or making a separate one for the forums.</p>
169</div> 412</div>
170<div class="section" id="reference-implementation"> 413<div class="section">
171<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1> 414<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" id="reference-implementation" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1>
172<ul class="simple"> 415<ul class="simple">
173<li><a class="reference" href="http://curtis119.no-ip.org/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li> 416<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li>
174<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&amp;chap=2">Becoming a developer</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id5" id="id6" name="id6">[2]</a></li> 417<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&amp;chap=2">Becoming a developer</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id5" id="id6" name="id6">[2]</a></li>
175<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">Staff quiz</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id7" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a></li> 418<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">Staff quiz</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id7" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a></li>
176<li><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">Thread on gentoo-dev</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id9" id="id10" name="id10">[4]</a></li> 419<li><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">Thread on gentoo-dev</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id9" id="id10" name="id10">[4]</a></li>
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