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25	[<b><a href="./glep-0038.txt">GLEP Source</a></b>]	268	[<b><a href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt">GLEP Source</a></b>]
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31	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">GLEP:</th><td class="field-body">38</td>	274	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">GLEP:</th><td class="field-body">38</td>
32	</tr>	275	</tr>
33	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td>	276	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Title:</th><td class="field-body">Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project</td>
34	</tr>	277	</tr>
35	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.4</td>	278	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Version:</th><td class="field-body">1.5</td>
36	</tr>	279	</tr>
37	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/09/13 10:54:28</a></td>	280	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Last-Modified:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.txt?cvsroot=gentoo">2005/10/17 17:53:05</a></td>
38	</tr>	281	</tr>
39	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann <christian.hartmann at email.de>,	282	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Author:</th><td class="field-body">Christian Hartmann <christian.hartmann at email.de>,
40	Wernfried Haas <w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at>,	283	Wernfried Haas <w.haas at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at>,
41	Tom Knight <tomk at gentoo.org>.</td>	284	Tom Knight <tomk at gentoo.org>.</td>
42	</tr>	285	</tr>
43	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Final</td>	286	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Status:</th><td class="field-body">Final</td>
44	</tr>	287	</tr>
45	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Type:</th><td class="field-body">Informational</td>	288	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Type:</th><td class="field-body">Informational</td>
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47	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Content-Type:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="glep-0012.html">text/x-rst</a></td>	290	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Content-Type:</th><td class="field-body"><a class="reference" href="glep-0002.html">text/x-rst</a></td>
48	</tr>	291	</tr>
49	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td>	292	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Created:</th><td class="field-body">06-May-2005</td>
50	</tr>	293	</tr>
51	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005, 28-Jun-2005, 17-Oct-2005</td>	294	<tr class="field"><th class="field-name">Post-History:</th><td class="field-body">17-Jun-2005, 28-Jun-2005, 17-Oct-2005</td>
52	</tr>	295	</tr>
53	</tbody>	296	</tbody>
54	</table>	297	</table>
55	<hr />	298	<hr />
56	<div class="contents topic" id="contents">	299	<div class="contents topic">
57	<p class="topic-title first"><a name="contents">Contents</a></p>	300	<p class="topic-title first"><a id="contents" name="contents">Contents</a></p>
58	<ul class="simple">	301	<ul class="simple">
59	<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li>	302	<li><a class="reference" href="#abstract" id="id11" name="id11">Abstract</a></li>
60	<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li>	303	<li><a class="reference" href="#motivation" id="id12" name="id12">Motivation</a></li>
61	<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li>	304	<li><a class="reference" href="#specification" id="id13" name="id13">Specification</a></li>
62	<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li>	305	<li><a class="reference" href="#rationale" id="id14" name="id14">Rationale</a></li>
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64	<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li>	307	<li><a class="reference" href="#reference-implementation" id="id16" name="id16">Reference Implementation</a></li>
65	<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li>	308	<li><a class="reference" href="#id1" id="id17" name="id17">References</a></li>
66	<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li>	309	<li><a class="reference" href="#copyright" id="id18" name="id18">Copyright</a></li>
67	</ul>	310	</ul>
68	</div>	311	</div>
69	<div class="section" id="abstract">	312	<div class="section">
70	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>	313	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id11" id="abstract" name="abstract">Abstract</a></h1>
71	<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process	314	<p>Global moderators and site admins should also go through the mentoring process
72	and become official Gentoo staff.</p>	315	and become official Gentoo staff.</p>
73	</div>	316	</div>
74	<div class="section" id="motivation">	317	<div class="section">
75	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>	318	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id12" id="motivation" name="motivation">Motivation</a></h1>
76	<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and	319	<p>At the time of writing the forums are apart from the recruiting process and
77	people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP	320	people helping out there are not made an official part of Gentoo. This GLEP
78	aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for	321	aims on creating and establishing a recruitment and mentoring process for
79	moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully	322	moderators and site admins of forums.gentoo.org. By doing this we hopefully
80	achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about	323	achieve a (even) better moderation quality and stop the complaints about
81	moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs	324	moderators not being staff. Moderators and site admins do not need cvs
82	access.</p>	325	access.</p>
83	<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all	326	<p>Moderators and site admins are doing a hard job for the community as well as all
84	the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events	327	the other projects do but they get no voice in the gentoo internals. Recent events
85	such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively	328	such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure poll are effectively
86	affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member	329	affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the decision as an equal member
87	is present among the moderators.</p>	330	is present among the moderators.</p>
88	<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we	331	<p>Moderators are often a contact person between users and developers, so we
89	should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As	332	should try to improve the communication between these two groups of people. As
90	moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used	333	moderators are pretty much exposed to the public (forums users, but also used
91	as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the	334	as contact person for requests that should go to the PR department or the
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105	administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly,	348	administrators are able to delete, move and edit posts on the forum willingly,
106	their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not	349	their level of access should be considered developer like. Many users may not
107	be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a	350	be aware of the difference between moderators and developers, so the actions of a
108	moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p>	351	moderator may represent Gentoo Linux to them anyway.</p>
109	</div>	352	</div>
110	<div class="section" id="specification">	353	<div class="section">
111	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>	354	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id13" id="specification" name="specification">Specification</a></h1>
112	<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that	355	<p>To obtain a certain kind of quality assurance and to (create and) ensure that
113	upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes	356	upcoming moderators know about the forums guidelines a document and processes
114	will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow.	357	will have to be created and established that the recruits need to follow.
115	This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines	358	This document (called <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id3" name="id3">[1]</a>) will include the moderation guidelines
116	as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as	359	as they are currently available in the moderators forum plus a FAQ that was created as
117	a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the	360	a possible candidate for a forums-quiz. The guidelines and the FAQ should help the
118	moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p>	361	moderator to get some general information about how to moderate the forums.</p>
119	<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can	362	<p>Suggested procedure for becoming global moderator: Existing moderators can
120	suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to	363	suggest a user to become a moderator. The ability of the new moderator to
121	deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually	364	deal with people in a kind way and to detect misplaced posts, etc usually
122	also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read	365	also has been reviewed by the other moderators already since they can read
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130	does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be	373	does not do anything in that time or messes up in another way, they will be
131	restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team	374	restored to their old user status. The mentor(s) and everyone of the forums team
132	are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a	375	are encouraged to help the new moderator if they are unsure how to deal with a
133	situation.</p>	376	situation.</p>
134	</div>	377	</div>
135	<div class="section" id="rationale">	378	<div class="section">
136	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>	379	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id14" id="rationale" name="rationale">Rationale</a></h1>
137	<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo	380	<p>The process of aquiring new developers seems to work for the rest of Gentoo
138	Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were	381	Linux quite well. A mentoring system has been chosen since new moderators were
139	mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less	382	mentored unofficially by the other moderators anyway. This means more or less
140	writing down things that have been done already.	383	writing down things that have been done already.
141	It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new	384	It was discussed to add a forums-specific quiz to the process of aquiring new
142	moderators.	385	moderators.
143	Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is	386	Devrel's standing on that is that it is up to the moderators how a new moderator is
144	chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators	387	chosen. Since the old process worked fine so far and some people among the moderators
145	didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the	388	didn't exactly like the idea of a quiz, we chose not to make one. A document containing the
146	questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation	389	questions collected for the quiz in form of a FAQ together with the moderation
147	guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to	390	guidelines seems to be a more feasible approach. The new moderators are supposed to
148	read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information	391	read the FAQ as well as they had to take a quiz, so they will learn the information
149	given in this document.</p>	392	given in this document.</p>
150	</div>	393	</div>
151	<div class="section" id="backwards-compatibility">	394	<div class="section">
152	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1>	395	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id15" id="backwards-compatibility" name="backwards-compatibility">Backwards Compatibility</a></h1>
153	<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be	396	<p>Moderators who are currently inactive (Bodhisattva status) should be
154	considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz	397	considered akin to retired developers and will have to take the staff quiz
155	if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go	398	if they return to moderation activities. New moderators should have to go
156	through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p>	399	through the mentoring process in any case as stated above.</p>
157	<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not	400	<p>Moderators in national forums: In our internal discussion it turned out that not
158	all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which	401	all moderators in the national forums are able to speak english well, which
159	would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would	402	would be a requirement to become a staff member. We decided that it would
160	counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is	403	counter productive to make it mandatory for them. Becoming a staff member is
161	optional for these moderators.</p>	404	optional for these moderators.</p>
162	<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators	405	<p>As a side effect of the discussion about the glep among the moderators
163	as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned	406	as well as in discussions with other developers and devrel, it turned
164	out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the	407	out that the forums have never been assigned to a toplevel project in the
165	general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit	408	general organization of the Gentoo project. Forums don't really seem to fit
166	into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure	409	into one of the current categories as they are related to the infrastructure
167	and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category	410	and the documentation project. We suggest putting it in the other category
168	or making a separate one for the forums.</p>	411	or making a separate one for the forums.</p>
169	</div>	412	</div>
170	<div class="section" id="reference-implementation">	413	<div class="section">
171	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1>	414	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id16" id="reference-implementation" name="reference-implementation">Reference Implementation</a></h1>
172	<ul class="simple">	415	<ul class="simple">
173	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li>	416	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">Moderators handbook/FAQ</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id2" id="id4" name="id4">[1]</a></li>
174	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2">Becoming a developer</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id5" id="id6" name="id6">[2]</a></li>	417	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2">Becoming a developer</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id5" id="id6" name="id6">[2]</a></li>
175	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">Staff quiz</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id7" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a></li>	418	<li><a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/quiz/staff-quiz.txt">Staff quiz</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id7" id="id8" name="id8">[3]</a></li>
176	<li><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">Thread on gentoo-dev</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id9" id="id10" name="id10">[4]</a></li>	419	<li><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">Thread on gentoo-dev</a> <a class="footnote-reference" href="#id9" id="id10" name="id10">[4]</a></li>
177	</ul>	420	</ul>
178	</div>	421	</div>
179	<div class="section" id="id1">	422	<div class="section">
180	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id17" name="id1">References</a></h1>	423	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id17" id="id1" name="id1">References</a></h1>
181	<table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id2" rules="none">	424	<table class="docutils footnote" frame="void" id="id2" rules="none">
182	<colgroup><col class="label" /><col /></colgroup>	425	<colgroup><col class="label" /><col /></colgroup>
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184	<tr><td class="label"><a name="id2">[1]</a></td><td><em>(<a class="fn-backref" href="#id3">1</a>, <a class="fn-backref" href="#id4">2</a>)</em> <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml</a></td></tr>	427	<tr><td class="label"><a name="id2">[1]</a></td><td><em>(<a class="fn-backref" href="#id3">1</a>, <a class="fn-backref" href="#id4">2</a>)</em> <a class="reference" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/forums/forum-guide.xml</a></td></tr>
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202	<tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id10" name="id9">[4]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985</a></td></tr>	445	<tr><td class="label"><a class="fn-backref" href="#id10" name="id9">[4]</a></td><td><a class="reference" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/28985</a></td></tr>
203	</tbody>	446	</tbody>
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205	</div>	448	</div>
206	<div class="section" id="copyright">	449	<div class="section">
207	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id18" name="copyright">Copyright</a></h1>	450	<h1><a class="toc-backref" href="#id18" id="copyright" name="copyright">Copyright</a></h1>
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